11.28.2011

Faith Healing: Six Die After Church Tells Them They No Longer Need HIV Treatment

At least six HIV patients have died in Britain after their evangelical church leader told them they were cured and no longer needed treatment.
The Synagogue Church of All Nations, based in London, holds a prayer line once a month where people from across Europe come to be healed of all kinds of illnesses, Sky News reported Friday.

During the prayer line, pastors shout over the person being healed for the devil to come out of the body, while spraying water in the face.

Pastor Rachel Holmes told Sky News the church has a 100 percent success rate.

"We have many people that contract HIV. All are healed," Holmes said.
If we are to accept Holmes' miraculous claims at face value, the obvious next question would be, 'Why did those six people die?'
The church goes on to claim people who were not healed did not fully accept God would heal them.

"We must have a genuine desire if we come to God. We are not in position to question anybody's genuine desire. Only God knows if one comes with true desire. Only God can determine this," the church said.

"That is why, if anybody comes in the name of God, we pray for them. The outcome of the prayer will determine if they come genuinely or not."
The below video, from a Sky news broadcast, contains footage from the church's 'healings.'




This sort of evangelical 'healing' is an example of the many ways in which faith can impede progress, and even kill. This is only one in a long string of recent deaths related to 'faith healing.'

Each of these could have been prevented by simply taking the child to the doctor rather than relying on a supernatural intervention.

A recent study by the University of California at San Diego and a Sioux City, Iowa, group called Children's Healthcare Is a Legal Duty, concluded:
Four of every five sick children in the United States who died after their parents put their trust in faith healing could probably have survived if medical treatment had been sought, according to a study published yesterday in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

The report, which examined 172 child deaths in faith healing families from 1975 to 1995, concluded that 140 of the deaths, or 81 percent, were due to conditions that had a survival rate exceeding 90 percent with treatment.

Eighteen other children would have had better than a 50 percent chance of living with treatment, and all but three children would have benefited from medical help, the report said.
We live in an age where medicine and technology have rendered obsolete the primitive and barbaric treatments of Biblical times. The germ theory of disease has displaced the 'need' for exorcisms, bloodletting, and trepanning. We would be fools to favor prayer over the use of antibiotic ointment in the case of a simple scratch.

And yet:
In one case cited in the report a child choked on a banana and showed signs of life for nearly an hour while her parents reacted by calling people to pray.



19 comments:

  1. This is why so many feel anger towards religion, amongst other things...

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  2. Sad. It's sad that people choose to believe that faith will heal them because they are so desperate, and it's sadder yet that innocent children die because their parents feel they have to prove that their "god" works.

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  3. And here we have another classic example of the moral depravity of religion. Truly sad indeed.

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  4. Sad indeed. And this is what makes me so angry...not only did the church give these people false hope, but then when they died, it was their fault for not believing hard enough. Un-fricking-believable.

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  5. "The outcome of the prayer will determine if they come genuinely or not."

    Unless you are Yahweh/God, you are in no right position to make claims about others. Are you a doctor? An angel? God? No, you're a messenger. You can't magically perform miracles. You need the power that is given to you to do so.

    Those six people didn't die because they didn't fully devote themselves, you as a preacher didn't follow through and realize you weren't almighty and all-knowing. Idiot. >_>

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  6. But to me God has the power to heal whatever manner disease only we need to be faithful and if someone prays for you, you must also believe. Remember you first confess your sins truly being penitent for the rest of your life. First ask your existence! How did you happen to exist? Ask your death! How can someone who had all the strength and energy finally die? All is because of the power of God!Jesus used to heal and the afflicted to go to priests for examination. This means these people had to go and re-test if they had faith. What you also need to know is healing can either be instantaneous or gradual. You need not give God a time frame when to heal. You suffer a lot of patience. God created herbs. The ARVs are from from those plants. They should not have stopped swallowing them. You know there are some pastors who could only be aiming at making money. "False Prophets" also existed in Biblical times so, why cant you expect them today? But what I know Jesus heals because I spent almost ten years with High Blood Pressure. I used to swallow tablets and time came when the medics told me to stop after being defeat at the manner I could swallow them as peer their prescription but not coming down! Later God healed me and now it is over ten years I have never felt anything heart problem. Jesus heals when you have faith like He said "Your faith has healed you" Stop mixing worldly powers, moreover given to you by God with "real" Spiritual matters. God bless you.

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  7. That's right Anonymous, Jesus heals ,the problem is most don't believe, it is done unto them according to their faith, if these people would just into the Word of God and believe it, they will be healed. Jesus provided healing on the cross. In Exodus 20:5 he says 'I am the Lord that healeth thee'. Remember, wide is the gate that leads to destruction and narrow is the road that leads to heaven, repent and believe the good news of the Gospel, if you don't get healed, you have only one person to blame, yourself,....by His stripes you WERE healed.....believe and receive, doubt and go without...

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  14. • MY HIV DISEASE WAS CURED BY DR NICE, WITH HIS HERBAL HEALING SPELL/ (drniceharbelhealinghome@gmail.com).DR NICE is the only Dr who could ever get my HIV-AIDS cured with his healing spell, I have tried almost everything but I couldn’t find any solution on my disease, despite all these happening to me, I always spend a lot to buy a HIV drugs from hospital and taking some several medications but no relieve, until one day I was just browsing on the internet when I come across a great post of! Michelle! who truly said that she was been diagnose with HIV and was healed that very week through the help of these great powerful healing spell doctor, sometime I really wonder why people called him DR NICE I never knew it was all because of the great and perfect work that he has been doing that is causing all this. so I quickly contacted him, and he ask me some few questions and he said a thing I will never forget that anyone who contacted him is! always getting his or her healing in just 6 hours after doing all he ask you, so I was amazed all the time I heard that from him, so I did all things only to see that at the very day which he said I will be healed, all the strength that has left me before rush back and I becomes very strong and healthy, this disease almost kills my life all because of me, so I went to hospital to give the final test to the disease and the doctor said I am HIV negative, I am very amazed and happy about the healing Dr NICE gave to me from the ancient part of Africa, you can email him now for your own healing too at :drniceharbelhealinghome@gmail.com

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  15. My name Anabel James from UK. I was HIV positive and i was not happy living with it, and i went into research on how i can get cured for HIV, i contacted a lot of spell casters and they were unable to cure me. On a blessed day a friend of mine introduce me to the man that cured him, i was afraid to contact because of my past experience but i decided to give him a trial, so when i contacted him, he assure me that he will help me and i told him that many spell casters has also told me this but they all fake me, he told me not to worry that he is going to help me, So i believe in him because all i wanted was to be cured, so he prepared a healing spell for me which i used for 4 days, i went to the hospital for test the 5th day and came back happily. The test stated that i was cured from the disease.. This gladdens my heart and everybody in the hospital was surprise want to appreciate DR AKULA the powerful spell caster that cured me from HIV AIDS. i was very happy even the Medical Doctor, So viewers DR AKULA is sent by God to deliver his people. For any kind of disease you can contact him through his email on (greatakulasolutionhome@gmail.com) thank to the great AKULA that help me to cure my HIV. Thank you Doctor.......

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  16. Hello my name is kathy, I want to give a testimony about my HIV virus that was cured by a great spell caster. Since last 3 years now I have being a HIV AID patient. I never think I live long again and am so grateful about DR.OSUBA who cured my HIV AIDS last 3 weeks. I was in a great pain so I told one of my best friends, he told me that there is a great spell caster that can cure my HIV. I asked her if she con give to me the contact of this GREAT SPELL CASTER, she gave me his email, I emailed him he talked to me and he perform the necessary things and gave to me some herbs to take which I did and he told me that after two weeks I should go for a test. Which I did, when the doctor told me that am now a HIV negative I couldn’t believe myself I went to see another doctor the result was still the same, I was human on planet earth, so I emailed him and thanked him. Please if you are having a similar problem please visit him/ You can contact him on his email on DR.OSUBASPELLTEMPLE@GMAIL.COM and he will also help you..

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  17. Am Adu Austine by name, i want to use this great opportunity to express my heart felt appreciation to Lord spiritual who helped me when i was suffering from Alzheimer's Disease . i thought this was the end of the world for me, i cried all day and night all to no avail.i contacted many spell casters and Doctors to cure me i never new they were scammers until my neighbor directed me to Lord spiritual who helped me, i never wanted to contact him until i decided to give him a chance and to my greatest surprise he casted a spell and in 5 days all my pains were gone.Not only that Dr also helped me break the yoke of barrenness in my wife life and now am having 2 kids. i vowed to testify of him all thanks be to the LORD SPIRITUAL for his kindness and sincerity. for more information contact me via email agentaustine@gmail.com but if you have similar problem please contact the Lord spiritual through his email LORDSPIRITUAL@OUTLOOK.COM

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  18. Mrs Helen from SuddenAugust 21, 2014 at 10:50 PM


    I am Mrs Helen from Sudden.

    i want to thank Dr charles for the herbal HIV medicine he gave to me and my daughter, i was suffering from HIV when i gave birth to my daughter and that was how my daughter got the sickness indirect from me, but to God be the glory that i am heal with the herbal medicine that DR charles gave to me when i contacted him. i want to use this medium to tell everyone that the solution to our sickness has come, so i will like you to contact this great healer on his email address: hivspelltemple@gmail.com with him all your pains will be gone, i am really happy today that i and my daughter are cured of HIV, we are now negative after the use of his medicine,my doctor confirm it. once more i say a big thank to you Dr charles for healing hands upon my life and my daughter, i say may God continue to bless you abundantly and give you more power to keep helping those that want your help in their lives. email him now he is waiting to receive you. hivspelltemple@gmail.com Or contact his number:+2349038409325

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  19. Am from south African.i have a testimony to share of how i was heal of my HIV by a great spell caster, it all stated like a joke when a friend told me about the great healer i never take it serious not until i visit his website and email him he told me what i needed to do to be heal i did’t wanted to do them because i thought it was a scam.we begin to email each other he told me not to worry that i should just believe i was in save hands that i trow away the fear and i put him on a try to know if he was really a healer so i did what was needed of me, then i was ask to go for a check up and when i did i find out that i was hiv negative oh thanks to the great healer doctor ikpeku thanks i own you my life i will keep testifying about you on prophetekpen@gmail.com or prophetekpen@gmail.com +2349038409325

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